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need cms advice for a business site

okay, so i am starting to get some business (yeah!!!) but i am finding myself a little short on time in keeping things updated, etc. i use a cms for two sites i manage, and i think a cms would be the way to go for the launch of my business site. i think the cms i use for those sites (e107) may not be the way to go for my business site, but i could be wrong....

from a needs perspective, i think i need a news module, maybe a forum option. i definitely need a media type gallery and a downloads module. however, i really want this to have a business feel to it but client friendly...

any suggestions? any help is appreciated!!!

thanks in advance and happy trading!

Posted by mrspoomp on Jun 04, 2007 in Swap Meet | 27 comments

anti on Jun 04, 2007

I use Drupal for my sites and I like it. It is not a set it and forget it kind of thing because of the rapid pace of development. I have set up a demo with another forum option, let me know if you want to see it and I will whisper the URL!

atubinas on Jun 04, 2007

Dot Net Nuke?

VHormazabal on Jun 04, 2007

Wordpress like CMS is perfect, and the administration is friendly for clients

Stratification on Jun 04, 2007

I've been playing around with TextPattern myself, though I'm not sure it quite has the power you're looking for.

bilke on Jun 04, 2007

Joomla is OK and it has the largest community. Extreme number of modules to add. Unfortunately, custom programming is quite difficult.

VINZ on Jun 04, 2007

i work with CMS Made Simple. Easy to understand, easy to program cutoms, and much modules.
the best way to make your opinion is to test it! have a look at opensourcecms.org
They have installed almost all known CMS on their servers

ZsaZsa on Jun 04, 2007

cmsmatrix.org gives a quickee table comparing all the cms's. My experience of opensourc - TYPO3 is not worth the learning curve. Website Baker is a dream of ease of use. If you can pay around $175 US (100 British pounds) Software from Scratch has just launched their CMS which runs on PHP but no database - it uses includes and an obfuscator.

mrspoomp on Jun 04, 2007

thank you all for the links and the input... i am looking at it all as we speak and there are a lot of options!

Forevagrey on Jun 04, 2007

personally i am against the whole idea of cms, because of the structure they set up. It is too close-ended.

montana on Jun 04, 2007

when you say cms you mean *open source* cms right? big difference between open source and *proprietary* cms.

if you need something *enterprise level* try Corespin. shameless plug.

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iconmaster on Jun 04, 2007

Personally I would have a hard time moving away from Movable Type for site management and Basecamp for client collaboration.

You might have a look at Radiant, though.

Kuifje Vip-micro on Jun 04, 2007

I've worked on a very large "enterprise level" project that uses Fatwire - worked out really well.

anti on Jun 04, 2007

Just wanting my name on all the top posts for a while...

Choosing a CMS is such a personal thing, everyone has their own priorities.

Personally I have to agree with Iconmaster; boy was it hard to move away from Movable Type. When you have a good number of sites to manage though, it pays to concentrate on the solution that covers all your bases.

If you will only be managing one site, pick the solution that will best suit you. If you will be managing many, go for flexible.

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ShaLee on Jun 05, 2007

Hoping not to appear too ignorant, but being 51!!!! computers didn't exist when I was at school!!! Oh dear I wish I hadn't typed that.... Now the obvious question, what is an
'CMS' please??

mrspoomp on Jun 05, 2007

content management system... essentially, they try to make web publishing easier. i am starting to get pressed for time, and i really need something to help manage multiple projects, sites, etc.

maka on Jun 06, 2007

I am beginning to use Wordpress as the core of the front-end and activCollab for client back-end & project management.

Grusella on Jun 06, 2007

If you don't need workflow on your site, the Joomla! may help you.

* The News module is there by default (and the more visited news too).

* There are lots of "bridges" made for several forum based solutions and there are even two whole forum system made using Joomla! clases so no bridge is involved.

* On the media gallery topic: The "Gallery & Multimedia" section has more than 150 modules to explore.

* If you want to create a sort of community with your customers, the Community Builder pack is for you.

(And there are lots of SEO Tools there also)

* On the downloads there are several modules that does exactly that: let you organize and put some metadata to the downloads.

JBVisions on Jun 06, 2007

I use Joomla for a couple of client sites. My only gripe with it is that it doesn't produce terribly clean code and the admin backend isn't as intuitive as it could be but other than that, it has pretty much anything you could want, it's free and there's a new version due out which addresses the backend problem I believe.

I also use Wordpress and once it's set up it's a breeze to use but it's not as flexible as Joomla as it was meant to be a blog.

dgroth on Jun 07, 2007

Start with asking what questions you need solved and then find the right solution - which might not be a CMS at all. Lots of folks choose a technology to solve a problem, but don't have any idea what the question is.

Xerxes on Jun 07, 2007

If you didn't want to pay for Movable Type, the next version is going to be open sourced and they have a beta right now.

VHormazabal on Jun 07, 2007

"I also use Wordpress and once it's set up it's a breeze to use but it's not as flexible as Joomla as it was meant to be a blog."
Noooo, Wordpress like CMS is very powerful, I use WP with almost all my clients (before I use Joomla). Joomla is Ok, but WP is better

chuise on Jun 07, 2007

I'm a huge fan of Expression Engine right now. However, I'm a big fan of Movable Type too. This site is built largely on Movable Type. There are around 12 "blogs" that make up different parts of the site. Static pages are managed in one blog, news in another, partners in another, etc...

AVP8472 on Jun 07, 2007

e107.org or Joomla.

tommythewolfboy on Jun 07, 2007

Not my thread, but was looking into some of this stuff myself and lots of good tips here so THANKS everyone :)

mrspoomp on Jun 07, 2007

wow everyone! thank you! i am definitely looking at open source until i get some cash flow going. i went through and did look at everything, and i think i would like to hear more impressions of drupal vs. joomla. i love e107; use it for my own site. i just think that it falls short on some things that drupal or joomla might be able to do. if anyone is willing to share sites (no need for logins, just something to look at), please post or whisper on my profile. thanks again everyone!

anti on Jun 07, 2007

Well mrspoomp, you already have the login to my test site, although admittedly I have not added much to it. I only bring it up now because the offer extends to anyone who is interested in checking out Drupal. Just let me know and I will whisper the URL to you.

This blog has definately sent me down memory lane due to the references to Movable Type. How I loved it. I do think I made the right decision in leaving it behind, however. This sort of discussion could easly take on the passion of mac/pc. The proper analogy is that if you are a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. I am an unabashed Drupaler and therefore think it is right for every situation. Someone else could say the same for their solution and be equally right.

I tried Joomla/Mambo briefly and was put off mostly by the mixing of code with presentation. If you don't know what that means then it might not matter to you. In a nutshell, I want control. I am not a programmer, or an artist, but I understand the concepts of each calling. I am a tinkerer. Drupal is a tinkerer's dream. Joomla suits those who don't want to get dirty. You know who you are. You can use Drupal if you don't want to get dirty or Joomla if you want to tinker, but why fight nature.

So mrspoomp is calling for links. I personally am shy because it is always a work in progress, but I have a few that are working until I reach that nirvana of just right. Turns out I am not a web developer by trade, but the manager of a farmers' market, so I offer up Watauga County Farmers' Market as my flagship. I also submit Leola street Garden, Blue Ridge Women in Agriculture, Shady Grove Gardens as working websites. I have Gourd Barn Crafts as an example of a Drupal shopping cart. My portfolio will someday reside at US421.

These websites are all made with Drupal. I welcome any critique. We do have some high end folks here on IB and free advice is more than welcome.

thedudedean on Jun 10, 2007

I agree that Joomla is a pain in the ass but if you take the time to learn it, its the best CMS out there.