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Mac web software suggestions?

I haven't built a website (other than my OSCommerce jewelry site) since forever - before CSS even came out. I'm now getting back into it, and trying to decide what software to use on my mac for managing/building a fairly large site with lots of informational content and pics that would need frequent additions and updates. Any suggestions out there? Only thing I've even looked at was BBEdit....what do you Mac folks build your stuff with?

Posted by cjvan56 on Apr 26, 2007 in Blab | 23 comments

tamashii on Apr 26, 2007

Hire a developer?

Maybe give Coda a spin.

dyar on Apr 26, 2007

That kind of depends on your software Budget.

Dreamweaver is excellent but expensive.

Nvu has gotten pretty good reviews for an open source Freebie.

I would also be interested in hearing others answers.

cjvan56 on Apr 26, 2007

ha, hiring a developer would take all the fun out of it! I miss playing with graphics and IB has revived my addiction :D So... I'm going to bit the bullet and upgrade my old 5.5 photoshop for the MAC, so might as well get some web software while I'm at it....

miklb on Apr 26, 2007

-1 dreamweaver

textmate/css edit/transmit ftw

do it with code, not wysiwyg

iconmaster on Apr 26, 2007

Coda really is very nice. It might save you money, too -- buy one app instead of three.

dyar on Apr 26, 2007

If you're going to get Photoshop anyhow, You might check into Macromedia Suite. It contains Dreamweaver, Fireworks and Flash. I have both Photoshop and Fireworks and I honestly like Fireworks better.

cjvan56 on Apr 26, 2007

hmmm, hadn't thought about fireworks instead of photoshop..might have to take a look at that. Thanks for the info guys - I'll be spending the evening checking out your suggestions :D

mhayes on Apr 26, 2007

CSSEdit

extrarice on Apr 26, 2007

I hand-code everything, but then again I've been doing this for a while. WYSIWYG is easy, but you lose control over the final output, and it can make updating the site a hassle, especially if you add some things by hand later on (like CSS hacks to get things to behave right on IE).

rainbowslinky on Apr 26, 2007

Check out RapidWeaver. It has some really neat functionality!

webpanda Vip-micro on Apr 26, 2007

bbedit and macromedia.
fantastic.

justG on Apr 26, 2007

I use...

Graphics/Mockups: Photoshop
Code: skEdit, CSSEdit

redwolf on Apr 26, 2007

Dreamweaver is awful and should be avoided like the plague.

Coda may be the way to go. It's a bit rudimentary for my liking, but I've run across a few articles on tweaking it already.

cjvan56 on Apr 27, 2007

You guys are the greatest! Saved me a bunch of research time. My poor 'ole mac needs to be replaced, too - I'm still on 10.3.9, and my CD/DVD is not working, so that limits what I can try at the moment. There are some great (and cheap, yay) options other than Dreamweaver that look great for later when I get a new machine. (I've got a top of the line Windoze laptop for work, but I stare at that thing constantly for my day job, and I'm over it, lol). Guess I'll dust off my html skills and use skEdit to start with since it works with 10.3.9. Thanks again!

deepimage on Apr 27, 2007

Yeah Coda http://www.panic.com/coda/ is awesome.

justG on Apr 27, 2007

Everyone has their own preference, of course, but as a HomeSite-then-TopStyle Pro user of many years on Windows, skEdit was the only editor that just "clicked" for me when I switched to the Mac (I'd also tried: Taco HTML Edit, TextWrangler, BBEdit, TextMate, Smultron, SubEthaEdit, and a few others). (Okay, that's a lie, Aptana clicked too, but Aptana is Java, and that's just icky.) It doesn't hurt that the $25ish licensing fee includes lifetime upgrades.

cjvan56 on Apr 27, 2007

That's what it did for me, too - it just clicked, and I like the site editor that comes up. I learned html in the late 90's on HotDog Pro, and skEdit reminds me of that a bit. I used to use NetObjects Fusion, too back then which was great for getting things done in a hurry but made horrible html. Dreamweaver just seems like overkill for my needs, and when I tried it for a day several years ago, it didn't really get me excited enough to want to spend that much money. After I get upgraded to 10.4 I will definitely want to try CSSEdit and Coda. I'm kind of a software junkie as much as an icon addict, so I imagine I'll end up trying them all eventually just to see how they work.

dustybunny on Apr 27, 2007

I personally suggest something like Yummy FTP with XCode. Yummy FTP is $25 and XCode is free on the Mac.

josh Vip-micro on Apr 27, 2007

I'm definitely loving Code right now as well. skEdit and CSSEdit are nice too, but I think Code will be replacing them in my arsenal.

Spongefile on Apr 28, 2007

I've also liked XyleScope for looking through elements in an unfamiliar site..but Coda looks sweet!

redwolf on Apr 28, 2007

@justG: must go try out skEdit now. Thanks for the tip.

grrmoose Vip-micro on May 03, 2007

Love Coda and XyleScope!

justG on May 03, 2007

I'm not feelin' the Coda luv. I tried, but there are little things that aren't feeling intuitive to me. For example, I had a file on the remote server that didn't exist on the local one. I couldn't find a really easy way to save it locally. There was no way to drag-n-drop between local/remote views that I could see, which is okay; what isn't okay is that I opened the remote file, clicked on File > Save As, saved it locally, and... nothing happened. No good in my book. I still think it's beautiful, I love the multi-tab application window thing, and it's got great potential, it's just not quite there for me yet.

Xyle scope is great in concept, but it's not a tool that is really obvious (at least, it wasn't to me). I don't really like r'ing tfm; if I can't just jump in and use it, I'll probably chuck it. The X-ray thing in CSSEdit is fine for me + the Firebug Firefox extension is totally invaluable.

@redwolf: The currently available version of skEdit was enough for me to purchase it, but I should add that registered users get to beta-test new builds if they want to, and v4.0 is a completely different app that's about a gazillion times better than 3.x. Even if I do decide to add another tool to my arsenal (why I'm compelled to keep adding, I've no idea), I shan't ever regret my skEdit purchase. =)